I wasn't
too sure I wanted to do such a thing. I had the idea that just putting
the material on the website, letting those find it who were actively
looking just "find it," and leave it at that. I wasn't interested
in any kind of promotion or hoopla (still am not), and even if I had
been told that I had a talent for public speaking, it wasn't among my
favorite things to do. Yes, radio isn't exactly "public,"
but I had done it and all that had resulted was that Frank pouted and
criticized for weeks afterward apparently because HE hadn't been asked
to be a guest on a radio show. I didn't see it as part of our "mission,"
whatever THAT was, and I didn't want to offend him.
Yes, I
know, I was being manipulated by such emotional pressures, but it just
seemed easier to "keep the peace" than to explain to Frank
that nobody invited him to do anything because he didn't do any work,
he had nothing interesting to say, and when he did start talking, he
rambled so much that everyone in the room was soon fidgeting and wishing
to be somewhere else. When you feel sorry for somebody who is constantly
complaining that everyone has always been mean to them, and no one has
ever listened to them, it's kind of hard to tell them that maybe there
is a reason for it. And of course, you always think that if you just
tolerate all the glitches, help them build up their self-esteem, that
eventually they WILL become that dynamic and interesting person they
say that they have always wanted to be.
But, rather
than just say "no," in the event that the Universe was in
favor of this radio interview, I decided to leave it open, but to still
register my reservations. Maybe if I acted hesitant, the guy would
say "forget it" and the decision would be out of my hands
anyway? I wasn't even sure how he thought I could do this - did I have
to travel somewhere? If so, never mind. Funny how we play these mind
games with ourselves. I wrote back to Mr. Engelman:
To Ron
Engelman
Date sent: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:51:28 -0400
Hi!
Thank
you for your interest. I would like to know what the format is and
the general "trend" of the subjects you cover. I would
also like to know exactly HOW such an "appearance" would
be engineered?
I don't
really have anything to "promote" except my website, which
is a total mess today after I was making changes... And, I don't really
think there is much of a market for my husband's latest book:Conference
Proceedings of the Xth Max Born Symposium, "Quantum Future."
It's not exactly gonna be a best seller!
And,
I ought to tell you that I DID a talk show once in Tampa... WFLA...everyone
agreed that it was a tremendous success... lots of callers and all
that... but the Deejay was "terminated" very soon after
and has never worked in radio again. He is now selling real estate.
Of course, it COULD be unrelated... but he had a good "following."
And
then, there was the television appearance... the newscaster who decided
that I would be an interesting person to interview for a "human
interest" segment on the evening news ALSO is no longer employed
in the media.
The
only one who has survived interviewing me is a St.Pete Times journalist
who has not finished the writing project, so nothing is yet in print.
And may never be...
I would
like to think about it after I have some more information, if that
is okay.
Best,
Laura
Knight-Jadczyk
I feel
guilty to this day for Johnny Dollar getting canned from WFLA in Tampa
back in 1995. The way it all happened was that I had a hypnosis client
who came for the standard "relaxation" therapy. He turned
out to be an executive at the corporate offices of a radio station conglomerate
that owned, at the time, most of the radio stations in the area. It
now owns ALL of them, or so I understand. In any event, this client,
in addition to having a lot of fun with hypnosis, was very interested
in all the other things we were doing and asked many questions. Over
time, he came to know the full range of the material and the C's perspective
and he just decided one day I ought to talk on the radio. I told him
I didn't think I could do it, and he said he was sure I could, and he
would set me up with a real pro who would manage everything so smoothly
that I wouldn't have to do a thing!
Since
Tom French was still hanging out with us, and I had been pretty much
sworn to secrecy about his project, I thought I had better ask him what
he thought about it since I didn't want to have anybody "scoop"
him, so to say. I had committed to his project, and if that meant I
had to turn down other things, that was fine with me.
Well,
Tom, of course, didn't want me to mention his research, but he was excited
about the idea of me doing a radio show. He wanted to be there.
Frank,
as usual, started a major program of instructing me on what to say and
not say; it was pretty clear from everything he was saying that he must
have been convinced I was an idiot. I think he still thinks so. But,
at the time, I figured that he was just feeling threatened, and being
in the "save Frank" mode, I was more inclined to try to find
ways to appease him than anything else. I said that I would only do
the radio show if the whole gang could go with me. Frank beamed. He
was already dreaming of radio stardom. I decided if that is what makes
him happy, I'm going to try to finagle it so he can talk on the radio.
I was told that the space in the room that the broadcast was done was
limited, so with Frank, another group member, and Tom French and Cherie
Diez, the Times photographer, it was going to be pretty tight and, as
my friend in the business confided to me: better keep Frank off the
air or he would make all of us look stupid. I was a little bit offended
on Frank's behalf, but I knew exactly what he meant. Frank had to be
protected even from himself. But, I didn't have to tell him that. He
could still go and be there for the show and have a little fun. Terry
and Jan agreed to listen and tape the show from home.
When
we arrived at the station to do the show, I was surprised to discover
that Johnny Dollar had made a sort of "event" out of it.
He had made arrangements for Mike Lindemann and some other woman to
be participants via telephone, and it somehow ended up being a debate
over whether or not aliens were here to help us or not. A good segment
of the show was devoted to the subject of the alien autopsy film, and
at the end of the debate, the consensus was that I had made a very respectable
presentation. I was just glad that I hadn't gotten all tongue tied
and hadn't made a fool of myself. The main thrust of my comments were
that the alien reality was a hyperdimensional one, and it seemed, base
on the evidence so far, that humanity was NOT at the top of the food
chain.
Even Johnny
Dollar was convinced.
And the
next day, without warning, he was fired.
My friend,
the executive at the station offices still stays in touch and visits
occasionally. He is still convinced that Johnny was fired because of
that show, and both of them still talk about it on the occasions when
they have lunch together. The only way my friend managed to keep his
own job was because he arranged for Johnny to invite me himself, and
he was never "connected" to the event.
But, back
to the story: summer of 1999. Eve Lorgen had suggested that I might
want to get in touch with the fellow who was publishing her book, a
Mr. Hank Harrison, to inquire about publishing the C's material. I
wrote to him, and he wrote back giving me a website address. I checked
his site and noticed that he had published a book or two on the subject
of the Holy Grail. I was intrigued. After a few more exchanges, I
ordered his book. He then suggested we talk via telephone and sent
his number. We played phone tag for a few days and finally connected
for a discussion.
Meanwhile,
Ark and I were watching the fascinating parade of sometimes crazy antics
of guys with brains on the Sarfatti list. There was a guy on the list
named Dick Farley, who I had been introduced to some years ago by my
friend Blue. Blue had told me that Dick Farley, AKA Cloudrider, was
as close to Deep Throat as anybody in the UFO community could get and
that his "take" on subjects connected to same, as well as
covert intel, was very insightful. I had my doubts about anybody who
would talk about such things openly really being an "insider,"
but I did usually find Cloudrider's commentary to be interesting if
not downright entertaining on occasion. At this point in time, Dick
made some remarks that were both:
Date
sent: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:28:25 -0700
Subject: Re: Tabloid disinformation, but
a question about context...anybody?
Dr.
S,
The
supermarket tabloid "Weekly World News" (WWN) has long played
an easily demonstrable role in disinformation, often government-related
and with excellent timing disclosing or obfuscating pending releases
of previously secure information, for deflections. "UFOs,"
parapsychology, psi-spying and exotic physics are routine.
The
current issue has an uncharacteristically interesting "disclosure"
related to the topics frequently discussed on your list. I'm just
tossing it out for informal assessing by anybody interested. It suggests
"time travel," with the usual WWN chaff & fluff.
The
story claims the FBI is holding a "time traveler" from our
future at a remote farm, apparently in New England. The story, ostensibly
reported by "Australian journalist Theodore Dumane," claims
that a male, age 47, "appeared" on 24 Jan 1999 next to a
dumpster at a supermarket parking lot in Woburn, MA. His "time
machine" had had a breakdown, and his appearance in our time
was "an accident." He was stuck here.
The
guy reportedly showed up at "a Harvard research facility,"
where security people believed he could be a spy and called in the
Feds. The FBI is said to have located the guy in Boston, where he
was taken into custody and remains today, WWN says.
Of course,
the WWN story suggests the FBI is grilling the guy and learning all
sorts of cool stuff about the next 423 years, since the fellow reportedly
came back from Year 2422. Although not up there with the "Bat
Boy" and "Hillary has alien baby," the piece is fascinating
in terms of content analysis in context with previous WWN stuff which
later related accurately to eventual "mainstream" disclosures.
(Lockheed's "stealth ship" is one example; Dr. Leo Sprinkle,
UFO/abduction therapist in Laramie, Wyoming) being "outed"
on WWN's cover, in 1988, is another, as was CIA "psi/spy"
story breaking in WWN disinformation context to deflect mainstream
"retail" news.)
Some
of you folks on this list are apparently ready to "do the math"
that establishes the theoretical basis for what WWN is suggesting
and confabulating, so if past is prelude to the future, somebody might
be getting "too close," or stumbling into areas where "mad
scientists" from contraband programs are institutionalized and,
in this case, one may have "gotten loose." Hey, it's happened
before. (And then there were the Marconi "suicides" in the
U.K., and last week's "suicide" of Australia's topmost intelligence
official in this country...but those are other stories, for other
times.)
If you
have any insights into this, or contextual information, it would be
appreciated. Thanks, Dick Farley.
P.
S. - The issue of WWN of which I speak is easy to find. The cover
story this week is that somebody "dug up" Elvis, and the
body in the grave at Graceland wasn't his!!!
P.
P. S. - Personally, I wondered whether the "time traveler"
might not have been a Dan Smith clone, sent back from the future to
locate the "real" Dan Smith now-time. But seeing that someone
at least using Dan's identity is still transmitting messages, that
theory will have to fall to one perhaps somebody on your list will
put forward. DF
The initial
reaction to the story by the physicists on the list was that the story
was probably false, but that the idea ought to be investigated. Jack
Sarfatti wrote:
This
is an interesting story. Probably fiction. If true FBI and or CIA
should have me and my people interview the guy ASAP. But consider
the source. It's probably not true. It may be part of a disinformation
effort to debunk what I am doing in which we should expect such things
to really happen with increasing frequency. This is part of what Dan
Smith calls the "Eschaton". Jacques Vallee has described
it more scientifically in his books.
Dick Farley
wrote back in response to Jack's comments:
Dr.
S.,
I agree
that it's most likely false, but your sensitivity to the possibility
that it may be indirectly targeting the spheres in which you're exploring
is an excellent reflex. Back in 1988, when some friends (and benefactors)
and I were approached by Linda Howe about funding a video on the "Mars
Face," we had an encounter with the WWN.
Linda
arranged for us (three, including myself) to accompany her to The
Analytical Sciences Corporation (TASC), near Boston, where Dr. Marc
Carlotto was working on image analysis, and where the "Mars Face"
photo-interp had been done. Our team had interest in something scientifically
balanced, at least raising the questions but at the same time including
Marc's "caveats" about the image density and uncertainties.
Even
more interesting, to us and to Marc at that juncture (August 1988),
was what he was exploring about fractal analyses when applied to the
larger Mars field of view. He had just identified several other possible
anomalous formations. That in itself was scientifically intriguing
for any movie...but Linda and her cadre of handlers didn't see it
that way, apparently. Even though "our team" had agreed
already to fund half of the $95,000 Linda had said she'd need to do
the film, the deal "fell through." Seemed to me that she
and her handlers preferred the "sensationalized pseudo-science"
of Dick Hoagland and other disinformationists, feeding into the more
bizarre and mystical of theories as we've seen promulgated in the
intervening eleven years.
Jump
to WWN!
A few
short weeks after our visit to TASC, when it appeared that the "Mars
Face" in context would get a viewing in the video WE were interested
in helping to get made, the WWN launched a series of cover stories
about the "Mars Face Talking to Earth!" Imagine the impact
of that on mainstream interest? My sense has been that Linda is part
of the cadre which spins such yarns, acting either as an asset for
"intell" or she is a dupe. She was too good of a reporter
to fall for the whole thing, at least initially. But she is now well
hooked, if her behaviors at Rockefeller's JY Ranch symposium (which
I'd had a hand in organizing when I was with the Human Potential Foundation,
9/13/93) are any indication. Since then, she's worked for Bigelow
and with Art Bell?
So,
the WWN has an uncanny sense of timing when it comes to highlighting
REAL scientific breakthroughs or potentials therefore, in areas which
touch on the sensitive.
Heads
up!
Regards,
Dick Farley
My head
was certainly up and I was definitely paying attention to that thread!
Time travel? Linda Howe being co-opted? And, of course we see some of
the early hints to the Stargate Conspiracy.
The next couple of posts were somewhat confusing, however. Obviously,
a conversation was taking place over my head:
Date:
Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:14:04 EDT
From Ira Einhorn
Dick
wrote:
As for Jacques and Colin, both of whom I respect immensely and
in Jacques' case, whom I've had the pleasure of meeting and exchanging
information with for a time, it must be remembered that both of them
play for the same team.
Ira
wrote:
What team? i can't speak for Jacques any more, BUT we were real close
back then and he played for no team to my knowledge.
Colin
[Wilson] and I are still close and TEAM? Please define the parameters
better.
Thanks
for the info. on Linda whom I know not at all and not a line of her
work. I know she got scewed; that is all. She has spent time with
my closest friend who felt she was an alien.
ira
Who was
this Ira guy? What did he know, having been "close" to Jacques
Vallee and still close to Colin Wilson, a writer whose work I admire?
The response from Dick Farley to Ira's post was puzzling in the extreme:
From:
Dick Farley
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:14:04 EDT
Ira,
So,
what's an "alien" THESE days, eh? An honest American?
Regarding
Linda being "an alien." Having read the book "about
you" (The Unicorn's Secret, albeit with caveat's to you that
as a writer I could see through the chaff and half-told stories, glosses,
etc.) and some of your remnant stuff still in circulation, I'd suggest
that while you're whiling away your time in France, you consider a
new front of consideration. Kind of the "poetic" side of
the quantum-entity thing, which is not a far cry from Vallee's and
Wilson's thoughts about this.
From
Jacques I learned about Phyllis Schlemmer and her earlier experiences
with monks, who used her gifts to aid in their (monks) discernments
about whether certain folks coming to the monastery for help ("personality"
problems) were maybe "possessed" (i.e., resident entities).
Vallee's
published stuff has led the UFO discussion in this direction for thirty
years, and it is what attracted me to him and caused me to solicit
his participation in the early aspects of Laurance Rockefeller's "UFO
Disclosure Initiative" to the Clintonista White House, which
I staffed from October '92 until I departed on my own accord in April
of '94, information which I provide only for chronological context.
Jacques
came east and consulted a couple of times, then met with Rockefeller
(and John Mack), but then told us (me, personally, etc.) he was uncomfortable
with the direction those other folks wanted to take it...i.e., they
were taking it like "true believers." I've not shared that
"online" as my CloudRider persona, but what we were and
are dealing in, as you WELL know, is "something that's real,"
(although pushing the definitions of reality), and which powerful
oligarchs and their court wizards are desperate to control or at least
be the interlocutors of planetary and interdimensional contact. That
would be spelled "P-R-I-E-S-T-H-O-O-D" if we were having
a cultural anthropology chat, eh?
What
the primary "trap" is for those who engage interdimensionality
as an operant or contextual paradigm for scholarship and analysis,
is that we can "handle it" with our three-dimensional egos
and a dash of creativity and intellectual "wild west" bravado.
I suggest
your own experiences, even as described by your friends interviewed
and I acknowledge undoubtedly selectively quoted or misquoted by the
author with a bias, describe someone essentially "out of control"
and tumbling through hyper-space with no gyroscope to point the way
to "consensus reality" where there WAS none to find. Add
in the psycho-cybernetics and pharmacological enhancement experimentation,
and to use a sailing phrase, you were sailing downwind in a full gail
also in full sail.
When
I got to the same place, albeit without the pharmacological component
at that juncture, I "reefed" my sails, hove to and let the
storm blow itself out.
And
my family and I almost didn't make it, anyway. We took a lot of "green
water over the bow," as the Dark Side did its damnedest to derail
and destroy us. We've survived thus far, still right side up and pointy
end going first...which is about the barest one needs to still be
considered "sailing" and not shipwrecked.
Personally,
I could have been you, not to paraphrase Linda Tripp, but in all seriousness.
I identified considerably with your excesses and ego-overdrive as
you confronted and became enmeshed in a "reality" that is
excruciatingly enthralling and exciting when compared to "standard
3-D now."
And
the sensual overloads, the powerful intuitive and "psycho-sexual"
components (which seem to be an "occupational hazard" for
certain male types exploring in these realms...I mean in all seriousness,
which ought to be explored and is rather well so in Janet & Chris
Morris's "The Stalk," which I've mentioned in past postings),
all of these are consistent with my own experiences and not a few
other men I've known.
Without
the discipline of a philosophical and psycho-physical context, we
Westerner types were tumbling in that interdimensional milieu like
a cat in a clothes dryer. It's all warm and fuzzy, but terrifyingly
so...and we can't make it stop when we're scared.
Others,
like Leary, Murphy and now-aging "counter-cultural" explorers
who now are "the Establishment" New Agers and marketers
of "alt.lifestyle," got off the elevator at "ladies
lingerie" or "sporting goods."
Guys
like you kept pushing, climbing, seeking up and up, above the tree-line,
as it were. Eventually, you were rock-climbing onto the highest Himilayan
ledges and ridges, looking for God or whoever it is the Dalai Lama
and others are communing with as they seek guidance and carry out
orders of the "King of the World," (spelled "priest-kings")
and following threads in a tapestry all but invisible to the rest
of us uninitiated. Power untamed and undisciplined is deadly!
Which
brings me to something that helped me develop a working vocabulary,
albeit one which is heavily loaded with semantic and cultural baggage...but
which once I'd worked it though, proved helpful. A dentist-turned-hypnotherapist-cum
Ph.D., a man with great compassion and keen insight, plus a lot of
inherent integrity (at least in the early stages of his work, and
still so for the most part now), took a clean, fresh look at some
of the stuff Roger Woolger and others were doing. His name is Dr.
Bill Baldwin, and he developed his doctoral thesis into a "Spirit
Releasement Therapy & Past Life Regression Manual," which
is available. He and his wife Judith do the usual trainings and teaching
sessions, but have avoided the "cult-like" self-adulatory
styles of so many others who come upon useful operational paradigms.
You may find Bill's book interesting, perhaps helpful, as there is
a rather extensive, well-indexed series of clinical and anecdotal
narratives, session transcripts and contextual information. It goes
where Vallee and Wilson have pointed, is consistent with a lot of
what "The Nine" and variants have described, but it remains
VERY "human centered" and solid.
Bill's
approach is, "Hey, it doesn't matter whether you 'believe' this
or not, it's simply my clinical experience." And some of the
results he's achieved were independent of the client's "belief
system" or theological context, actually in most of his cases
are.
The
point? Linda Howe's perhaps being "an alien" is not a joke,
in the sense that she may have...indeed, my sense after spending various
amounts of time with her over the years, in very different contexts
spanning now twelve years...opened herself to a kind of "attachment"
of the sort Baldwin describes, especially in the "E.T. context."
Baldwin
puts phraseologies into this context that transcend all of the old
Catholic or "demonic" biases, although he's very clear about
the right of humans NOT to have to be manipulated or have energy drained
by attaching or embedded entities of various energies and intentionalities.
With
your encyclopedic background, I recommend this. Baldwin's book is
most readily available from Headline Books, Inc., which took over
publishing of it after the Human Potential Foundation Press foundered
at the demise of that foundation. Publisher Bob Teets also has a couple
of other books you ought to have, if you don't already: "UFOs
and Mental Health," (1997), to which I and Walt Bowart contributed
in addition to Bob's breezy but focused narratives; and "West
Virginia UFOs: Close Encounters in the Mountain State" (1995),
an excellent, very readable journalistic style narrative of various
stories...mostly firsthand, not the old rehashes of Gray Barker's
and John Keel's stuff (although Keel liked the book and is complimentary
of Bob's (et al.) work... and which has more than just UFO stories
in it.
Bob's
(and my) experiences working with Bill Baldwin color his approach
to what he wrote in "West Virginia UFOs," and the mix is
a fascinating exercise in what we called, "Applied Jacques Vallee."
In short, Baldwin's approach is "good armament."
Give
it a try. Give Bob a shout, or have somebody stateside do it:
Headline
Books, Inc.,
P. O. Box 52, Terra Alta, WV, 26764.
Order
1-800-570-5951. Tell 'em Dick sent you.
Ask
for some back issues of "The American UFO Newsletter," also.
It's NOT your average "UFO rag." Bob's read a lot of your
stuff also, and knows I was tracking "their" tracking of
you since at least 1988. Why? Because of what I described to you in
the preceding...I recognized some of what happened to you, then and
subsequent.
There
but for the grace of The Force, God or whoever, could have gone I.
Maybe still. One must keep up one's discernment and screen for "dark
ones," wherever it may be that "they" germinate...i.e.,
in the provinces of the mind...or "someplace else." Keep
up your guard...Guard your mind!
And
remember, humor is a sign of "sanity" yes? It all goes toward
the "weird" elements reported variously as happening to
Kit Green & Pat and those guys, at the fringes. And it's what
the "debunkers and skeptics" are perhaps well-intentionedly
working so hard to keep from being considered seriously.
"Who"
killed Holly? Perhaps the answers reside somewhere "in there,"
as described. Baldwin's work with Vietnam-era veterans is "worth
the price of admission," and I've heard his audio tapes he uses
in his training sessions, (one of which I've completed).
Whatever
is going on, and something IS going on, if you explore without considering
what Bill's developed for protections and appreciations of the "dangers,"
it's like free-climbing a sheer face. It may be a macho thrill, but
it's a VERRRRY long way down.